He said it out loud, right there on our onboarding call.
"I never really wanted to be the website builder. That's why I've kind of been hesitant to commit to this."
And I just let it sit for a second.
Because there it was. Why he hadn't scaled. It wasn't the tools, the market, or the lack of leads. He had decided, somewhere along the way, that being the website guy wasn't who he was supposed to be. It wasn't cool enough. It didn't match the version of himself he had in his head.
Meanwhile, the business was working. He'd built around 25 websites. Had recurring customers paying hosting fees year after year - one woman had been paying him for three years on a site he built in roughly an hour. He'd charged $1,500, spent sixty minutes on a consultation, showed her how to use the platform, and then just collected the renewal every twelve months. He had a garage door client who was texting him like a best friend, wrapping his truck with the branding, telling anyone who'd listen that this guy saved his business.
And he hadn't committed to it. Because he never wanted to be the website guy.
The Identity Trap
Someone builds something that works - it generates cash, has happy clients, has a clear path to scale - and they drag their feet on it because it's not what they imagined doing when they started. The proof is there. But the founder has decided it's beneath them, or it's not their passion, or it's not where they see themselves long-term.
So they half-ass it. They take referrals when they come in but don't go looking for more. They tell themselves they'll get serious about it later, once they figure out the thing they're supposed to be doing. And in the meantime, they're leaving money on the table every single month.
I've done this myself. When my lead gen company hit a million a month, instead of doubling down, I started a marketing company. That got going, so I bought multifamily real estate. Then passive income got boring and I moved to LA to try launching a production company. Then courses. Then SaaS. Every time, I was chasing the next identity instead of maximizing the one that was paying me.
I'm not saying you should never evolve or build new things. I've got five SaaS exits. I build new stuff all the time. But there's a massive difference between building something new because your current business is systemized and running without you - and bailing on something that's working because you've decided it's not the business you're supposed to have.
The guy I was coaching on this call? His website business wasn't systemized. It wasn't running without him. He had 25 clients from referrals and one proven customer who'd been paying him for three years. That's a foundation. And he was treating it like something to move on from.
What the Market Told Him
Let's talk about what the market had said about his business.
He'd sold websites at $1,500 multiple times. Customers stayed with him for years. One client was so happy he was sending thank-you dinners and texting regularly. His product - a white-label website builder with CRM and booking built in - was something he said a complete beginner could get live quickly, at a price that made sense for the market.
The market voted. It said yes.
This happened over and over.
And then he sat there and told me he'd been hesitant to commit because he never really wanted to be the website guy.
You don't get to argue with the market. I sold my first blog for $20 on Craigslist while I was still in college. Months of work. Zero revenue. And someone paid twenty bucks for it. That felt like a win and a gut-punch at the same time. But what it taught me - permanently - is that the market doesn't care about anything you care about. It doesn't care about your identity. It doesn't care about your vision for your future self. It pays for what it values. And when it keeps paying for the same thing, over and over, you'd better pay attention.
His market was paying for local service business websites. Plumbers, roofers, barbers, garage door companies - those were his clients. People who needed a site, had no idea how to build one, and had cash to spend. He understood them. He had templates they loved. The platform made fulfillment fast. And his case studies were sitting right there - the garage door client with the truck wrap, the woman who'd been renewing for three years.
He just hadn't decided to treat it that way yet.
The Pricing Problem Was an Identity Problem
When we got into the numbers, something interesting came up. He'd been selling most of these websites at $1,500 all-in - a thousand for the build, a few hundred for the annual SaaS subscription. And he mentioned that he'd gotten more turndowns than sales, and he wasn't sure if it was his closing ability or his price.
My take: push to $5,000. Maybe higher.
His instinct was that the templates were too simple to justify a bigger number. It took him maybe an hour or two to build a site. How do you charge $5,000 for two hours of work?
You charge $5,000 because that's not what you're selling.
Think about the garage door client. That guy sells garage doors for $15,000 to $20,000 a pop. That's the number he sees all day. That's his frame of reference for what things cost. He's comparing your website to the deals he closes. If everything in his world costs $15,000, your $1,500 website is so cheap it might feel suspicious.
They want the job done right, they want to feel taken care of, and they'll pay for that feeling. The correct move is to start your price high and bring it down if you need to - not to start low and feel like you're always leaving money on the table.
And here's a simple way to test it without blowing up your business: each new client gets a slightly higher number than the last one. If you've sold at $1,500, try $1,750. If that closes, try $2,000. Then $2,500. Then $3,000. You'll find your limit, and it's probably higher than you think.
But none of that helps if you're only getting one lead a month from referrals. Which brings us to volume.
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He said it himself: trying to capitalize on each lead when you only have one coming in per month is brain damaging. Every conversation becomes make-or-break. Every turndown is a catastrophe. You start second-guessing your price, your pitch, your templates - when the issue is volume.
If you close 20% of qualified conversations, you need five conversations to make a sale. If you're having one conversation a month, you're on a five-month sales cycle because you don't have enough at-bats.
The solution here is almost embarrassingly simple: cold calling.
For local service businesses - the plumbers, the roofers, the barbers, the tow truck drivers - cold calling works because they have to answer their phone. This is their job. They're in the field. They're waiting for calls. A roofing company doesn't have a receptionist screening calls from unknown numbers; the owner picks up. You introduce yourself, you tell them you build websites for roofing companies, you ask if they have a site or if they're happy with the one they've got, and you go from there.
It's not glamorous. Getting meetings is what counts. More meetings means more closes, and more cash follows.
If you want to know exactly how to structure those cold calls, the framework we use is inside the training - and our cold calling coach does a weekly group session to work through it live with members. The basics, though, are in the top cold email and outreach scripts if you want a starting point.
Cold email is the other lever. Once the list is built and the sequences are running, you're generating leads in the background while you focus on closing. The lead sourcing side - finding plumbers and roofers and barbers who don't have a web presence, or who have a terrible one - that's where tools like a Google Maps scraper help. Local businesses are listed there with phone numbers, addresses, and you can see right in the listing whether their web presence is weak. That's your list.
For email outreach at scale, tools like Smartlead or Instantly handle the sequencing and inbox management once you've got your leads. The lead strategy guide walks through how to put this together systematically if you're starting from scratch.
The Bundling Question
One thing he asked me that I think a lot of people in this kind of business get tangled up in: how do you present the SaaS and the service together without confusing the sale?
My answer was simple: you don't present them together. At least not upfront.
Lead with the service. You're a website expert for service-based businesses. You build websites. The price is $5,000. That's the conversation. Once the client has said yes, once the site is built and they've seen it live and they love it - then you bring up the hosting. "To keep this running, it's $X a month. That's where it lives." At that point, what are they going to do? They're not going to pull the site down. They just paid you to build the thing. The monthly fee just becomes part of owning the website.
Sequence the sale correctly. The service gets them in the door. The SaaS is the recurring revenue that builds long-term value in the business. And if you ever want to exit - which he mentioned he was thinking about - a business with predictable monthly recurring revenue gets a very different valuation than a pure services business. SaaS businesses command higher multiples. Even at a small scale, that MRR adds up in an acquisition conversation.
Commit to One Business
Near the end of the call, he started floating other ideas. He mentioned a cannabis consulting business he runs with his wife that does serious revenue - around $300,000 a month. He asked whether he could transition to that, or run both at the same time, or pivot if the website business scaled.
I told him the same thing I tell everyone: don't start two different businesses at the same time. Pick one, get it cash-flowing, get it systemized to the point where it can run without you, and then - if you still want to - build the next thing.
The website business isn't systemized yet. It's not running without him. It's running on referrals and goodwill and his own manual effort. Build the outbound system and close more deals at higher prices. Hire a VA for lead research and booking, then eventually put a closer on commission who takes the sales calls. At that point, he shows up to review what was built and collect the checks. That's when the business runs without him. That's when you get to think about what's next.
But that requires committing to the thing in front of you. And that means letting go of the identity story - the one that says "I'm not supposed to be the website guy."
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This is the lesson. You don't get to choose what the market wants from you. You only get to choose whether you'll show up for it.
He had a working offer and proof it worked. He'd built the platform himself. Clients thanked him, referred him, and paid him year after year. His target market - local service businesses who need a web presence and aren't nitpicky - was one he understood and enjoyed working with. He could outsource fulfillment. The pricing had strong margin in it.
All he was missing was volume. And volume is a solved problem. It's just outbound.
The hesitation was emotional. He'd decided the website business didn't match who he thought he was. And that identity story was costing him money every month he sat on it.
I've coached thousands of people through this exact version of the trap. Every time it's a different business - websites, lead gen, a service someone accidentally got good at. They resist the thing that's working because it's not the thing they planned on doing. And they keep chasing the planned version while the working version sits there, underinvested.
There's a concept I call Scheme Thinking - this constant pull toward the next idea, the next venture, the shinier thing just over the horizon. It's especially dangerous when you've got a little momentum, because that's exactly when a new opportunity seems most tempting. You think you're diversifying. You're running away from the grind required to turn something working into something great.
The antidote is simple but not easy: look at what's already working, and ask yourself what it would take to double it. Don't launch something new or pivot - just double what's in front of you.
For him, the answer was clear. More outbound at higher prices, with systemized fulfillment and recurring revenue locked in through the SaaS. That's a business, and an exit someday if he wants one. Freedom comes from a machine that runs without you.
He just had to stop being embarrassed that it was websites.
What to Do If You Recognize Yourself Here
If you're sitting on an offer that works but you haven't committed to - maybe because it feels unglamorous or it's not what you'd put on a conference bio - here's what I'd tell you:
- Audit your evidence. Not your feelings about the business. The evidence. Have people paid you, and did they come back or refer others? If yes, the market has spoken.
- Stop waiting to feel ready. He had 25 sites, recurring customers, and a three-year retention story. He still wasn't sure he was committed. Commitment is a decision you make.
- Build the outbound system before you optimize anything else. More meetings is always the first lever. Cold email follow-up sequences and consistent cold calling are how you build volume. Start there.
- Raise your prices. Seriously. If you've sold something successfully at your current price, there's almost certainly a higher price the market will accept. Find out what it is by testing it on the next deal.
- Get the recurring revenue locked in. Whether it's a hosting fee, a retainer, a SaaS subscription - whatever makes sense for your business model, build the MRR component. It changes the valuation of your business if you ever want to exit.
If you want help thinking through the positioning, the outbound strategy, or the offer structure - that's exactly what we work on inside Galadon Gold. Live calls, direct feedback, coaches who've done this.
The first step is deciding that the business you have is the one you're building.
The market already told you it is. The question is whether you're going to listen.
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